Episode 47

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23rd Jun 2025

Dr. Catriona Wallace: The Seven Generations Principle and the Future of Human-AI Leadership

In this episode of The Wisdom Of ... Show, host Simon Bowen speaks with Dr. Catriona Wallace, a world-renowned AI pioneer, founder of the Responsible Metaverse Alliance, and one of the most influential voices in ethical technology development. With over two decades in AI, long before most people knew it existed, Catriona brings a unique perspective that bridges cutting-edge technology with ancient indigenous wisdom.

As Chair of Boab AI, co-author of Checkmate Humanity, and a former Shark on Shark Tank Australia, Catriona has consistently been at the forefront of responsible technology development. But what makes this conversation extraordinary is her integration of plant medicine practices, indigenous community wisdom, and the "Seven Generations Principle" into the most advanced AI discussions of our time.

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Episode Breakdown

00:00 Introduction and Catriona's journey from wanting to be a farmer to becoming an AI pioneer

05:45 Why Australia risks becoming an "AI backwater" and the urgent need for responsible AI adoption

12:30 The difference between AI ethics and responsible AI and why most leaders get this wrong

18:15 The "evolutionary tipping point" toward transhumanism and what it means for business

25:20 Plant medicine journeys and their impact on tech leaders' understanding of regenerative economics

32:45 The Seven Generations Principle: How indigenous wisdom guides AI decision-making

38:30 From extraction to regeneration: Why business models must fundamentally transform

44:15 The eight principles of responsible AI and how to implement them in organizations

50:30 "Rapid Transformation" and the five-step process for evolving leadership consciousness

56:45 The intersection of technology love and nature love in shaping the future of humanity

About Dr. Catriona Wallace

Dr. Catriona Wallace has been recognized as a Top Global Power Woman by the Centre of Economic & Leadership Development and as the Most Influential Woman in Business & Entrepreneurship by the Australian Financial Review. In 2023, she was a Shark on the hit TV series Shark Tank Australia.

Catriona is the founder of the Responsible Metaverse Alliance and Chair of Boab AI, Artesian Capital's AI Accelerator and VC fund. She was also the founder of Ethical AI Advisory (now part of the Gradient Institute) and co-author of Checkmate Humanity: The How and Why of Responsible AI.

As founder of AI company Flamingo AI (which exited in 2020), Catriona led only the second woman-led business ever to list on the Australian Stock Exchange. She's an international keynote speaker, one of the world's most cited experts on AI and the Metaverse, and has been recognized by Onalytica as one of the world's top AI speakers.

With a PhD in Organizational Behaviour: Technology Substituting for Human Leaders and an Honorary Doctorate in Business, Dr. Wallace was inducted into the Royal Institution of Australia as one of Australia's most pre-eminent scientists. She is also a human rights activist, mother of five, trained Plant Medicine Guide, and strong advocate of the Psychedelic Renaissance.

Connect with Dr. Catriona Wallace

LinkedIn: Dr. Catriona Wallace 

Website: Responsible Metaverse Alliance 

Personal Website: drcatrionawallace.com 

Instagram: @catrionawallace 

Twitter: @catrionawallace 

About Simon Bowen

Simon has spent over two decades working with influential leaders across complex industries. His focus is on elevating thinking in organizations, recognizing that success is directly proportional to the quality of thinking and ideas within a business. Simon leads the renaissance of thinking through his work with global leaders and organizations.

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